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Sunday, June 22, 2025

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Perpetual trusts destroy cryonics financially. On a macroscale, bad perfusion has made current cryonics impossible to trust and on a microscale, the avoidance of a cryoconnectome proof destroys cryonics technically. Those elements, on top of Alcor's reneg on grandfathering, churning, labelling members underfunded, rising dues and Falloons call for still more insurance for reanimation, considered a separate function now from preservation make cryonics now seem impossible even to long time advocates like me. To bypass these cryonics show-stoppers, we should seriously reconsider the case for chemical preservation as suggested by Ken Hayworth who is at Howard Hughes Medical Institute.

Perpetual trusts were outlawed for centuries because they were considered dead hands that hampered living society. Now, wealth preservation conferences in cryonics promote something even worse... self-aimed perpetual trusts for the wealthy cryonicist which will result in dead frozen hands that currently hamper and will suffocate reality based cryonics.
-------WEALTH PRESERVATION TRUSTS SIGNAL THE END OF CRYONICS -- ONLY A CRYONICS INSURANCE FUND WILL SIGNAL ITS RESUMPTION.]-----------The Failure of Cryonics Finance-------Alcor set up for the rich?-----Problem is bigger than Alcor--------Comprehensive Cryonics Insurance & Credit Corporation-------------Google blogsearch on "cryonics"----------I quit.------------My Conversion to CI-----Bostrom-Sandberg-Vincent on Perp Trusts PDF must read-----A Negative Seung Test would end cryonics.-------[Cryoconnectome proof tracking]------Cryoconnectomics needs to be proven as the industry's next step]
Cryonics is currently on self-destruct like the Enterprise in an episode of Star Trek.. a magnificent concept is going down.. as a result of self directed perp trusts being made worse with robo trusts and Faloon's call for yet more life insurance to be bought by wealthless ordinary cryonicists for reanimation... instead of calling for redirecting bequests of wealthy cryos to a Cryonics Insurance Fund. I'm horrified by this turn of events since about 2006 in cryonics... as horrified and saddened as the original crew of the Enterprise watching their ship streak through the sky, burning up as she goes down. Despite the financial crash of cryonics, there is still a hard core group of perp trusters but if the Seung Test proves negative, even they will find cryonics impossible to carry forward. The Seung Test is the new gold touchstone test or acid test for cryonics-- and it hasn't been done yet. Do the wealthy cryonicists fear what they may find-- connectome destruction in cryovitrified brain slice? [Destruction of Star Trek Enterprise 1 min video]

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KEN HAYWORTH INTERVIEW with NIKOLA DANALYOV is required viewing for EVERYONE in cryonics today if you haven't already seen it... it's 1 hr. and gives us a NEW way to think about chem pres... as br has argued --

Brian Wowk and Greg Fahy are working the 21CM Lab late at night attempting to qualify for BPF Prize--
but they keep getting ...the CRYONICS MASH!

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