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Was Muhammad Ali cryopreserved (frozen) like Ted Willams? There's enough "chatter from the past" to consider it. [PALM Blog-post about Ali's possible cryonic preservation by Rick][Threaded discussion forum "TW Talk" will pick up where the PALM Blog-page left off]

Sunday, October 1, 2017

Hugh Hefner preferred blondes on each arm to cryonics.

I've been asked to comment on Hugh Hefner's demise-- in relation to cryonics.... by none other than... wait for it... (scroll down)...


Sorry about that. But it's true. I've been holding off on comment-- and finally on a later afternoon Sunday after three quarters of a pint of beer-- I find a few minutes of respite to go ahead and make this entry about "HUGH HEFNER" and "CRYONICS" (ya hear that ya dumb little google bots?)...

These days, the first place ya go to fer yer inforrr mation is yer internet soich engine... so I'll do that here... watch.."hugh hefner" cryonics - past 24 hr
"hugh hefner" cryonics - Google Search
American Playboy: The Hugh Hefner Story - Google Search

Here's a little sample of the stream I got...

Watch American Playboy: The Hugh Hefner Story - Season 1 On ...


Watch American Playboy: The Hugh Hefner Story - Season 1 On Yesmovies, The ... Eps3 Review - Season 3 Episode 03: Cryogenics; Lightning; Last Review ...

'Playboy' founder Hugh Hefner will be buried next to Marilyn Monroe ...


Hugh Hefner will be reuniting in the afterlife with his first ever cover girl, Marilyn ... Georgia high school football team runs onto field carrying American flags.

Hugh Hefner's funeral was small, quiet and discreet - NZ Herald


Whilst a representative for Hugh added: "Hugh M Hefner, the American icon who in 1953 introduced the world to Playboy magazine and built the company into ...

WATCH: Hugh Hefner's Most Iconic 'Playboy' Covers | XUMO


Hugh Hefner's legacy lives on in "Playboy," the magazine he founded at just 27 years old, and its groundbreaking covers ...

Hugh Hefner Did Not Live the Good Life - The Aquila Report


Overnight, we learned of the death of Playboy founder Hugh Hefner. ... that would supposedly undo the “Puritan sexual repression he saw in American life.”.

Amazon made series 'American Playboy: The Hugh Hefner Story ...


3 days ago ... "American Playboy: The Hugh Hefner Story" tells the story of how Hugh Hefner created the Playboy empire.

Husband of China's first cryogenics subject keeps his love and hope ...

www.scmp.com/.../husband-chinas-first-cryogenics-subject-keeps-his-love- and-hope

Aug 14, 2017 ... Both Alcor and another US firm Cryonics Institute are keen to tap into the ....Playboy founder and sexual revolutionary Hugh Hefner dead at 91.

I'm Dying to Meet You in the Next Life | GQ


Aug 13, 2012 ... The three-day meeting is sponsored by Alcor, the Arizona cryonics ..... forexample, that a man as old as Hugh Hefner still seems to aspire to ...

It's that last link to GQ that quotes the idea in my subject line... Hugh Hefner preferred blondes on each arm to cryonics.

I'm Dying to Meet You in the Next Life | GQ

Aging, of course, isn't a disease, though you can't convince the Alcorians. In Newport Beach, one lecturer ran through all the usual counterarguments to extending life indefinitely. Apparently, the Colonel Blimps among us feel that aging is good "because it gives life its meaning." This occasioned much derisive laughter in the room, which mystified me. Aging does give life some of its meaning, if you're lucky. Those changes in our bodies—the masteries that are acquired, the capacities that dissipate—and the people we lose form the basis of wisdom. They provide a sense of consequence and context. I feel pretty comfortable characterizing as sad, for example, that a man as old as Hugh Hefner still seems to aspire to nothing higher than dating 24-year-old twins. Seven and a half decades is an awfully long time not to grow up. The cryonicists are simply one extreme within a cultural moment that has vilified aging to the point where the injection of a neurotoxin to erase wrinkles and halt facial expression is completely acceptable.
I'm Dying to Meet You in the Next Life | GQ

Rick says... "The closest Hefner ever got to cryonics as far as I can see is having published a short story by Frederick Pohl in his Playboy mag"...

Playboy Magazine-June 1964-Lori Winston/Mamie Van …

This Vintage June 1964 Playboy magazine is in good ... "Intimations of Immortality" byFrederik Pohl, ... Playboy Magazine-June 1964-Lori Winston/Mamie Van ...

Playboy Magazine-june 1964-lori Winston/mamie Van …

Playboy Magazine-june 1964-lori Winston/mamie Van Doren; A Date In Time. Circa: 1964 Condition: Good ... "Intimations of Immortality" by Frederik Pohl, ...

Playboy Magazine June 1964 back issues and used …

Playboy June 1964 Playmate of the Month Lori Winston photographed by Edmund Leja. Interview Ingmar Bergman. Features "Intimations of Immortality" by Frederik Pohl

Rick says.. "I see Wordsworth beat Pohl to the use of that title..."

Ode: Intimations of Immortality from Recollections of Early Childhood (also known as Ode,Immortality Ode or Great Ode) is a poem by William Wordsworth, completed in 1804 and published in Poems, in Two Volumes (1807).

Rick says.. "It's actually an essay, not a short story...

Title: Intimations of Immortality Title Record # 1361647
Author: Frederik Pohl
Date: 1964-06-00
Language: English
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Rick says... running a search on pohl and hefner turns up a factoid about Hefner being a sci-fi fan-- which all cryonicists are... so right there is a possible connection to cryonics after all... slim chance but it's all we have. 

Reading Playboy for the stories: The magazine's long partnership ...

FactorDaily‎ - 1 day ago
The roots of this relationship lie with Hugh Hefner, a sci-fi fan himself ... Robert Heinlein, AE van Vogt, James Blish, Frederik Pohl, Theodore ...

Friday, March 17, 2017

I pitched Ch. 3 Phoenix on covering the possible Ali-cryonics connection.

I failed to copy and post the pitch to Ch. 3 but basically pitched them on my blog here and how there might be a connection. channel 5 phoenix - Google Search
P.A.L.M. Cryonics

I emailed alcor's general contact form-- with a heads up to this link. The next paragraph shows that Alcor is officially pleading ignorance to any connection between Ali and cryonics by issuing a statement that is incomplete and brief. This is complete absurdity. Obviously TransTime has a currently online findable documented history with Ali as I showed 2 posts ago so this makes Alcor useless as a funnel for cryonics information-- as I found out decades ago anyway. Still-- since Ali is in Phoenix and since the Ali fundraiser this weekend is in PHoenix and since Alcor is in Phoenix-- etc... you'd think that an intellectually honest Alcor (obviously an oxymoron) would at least acknowledge the idea that Ali desired cryonics like Disney decades earlier. This cryonics cover-up is stupid in the age of the internet when everything is now available to anyone with a smartphone. I guess all I'm doing here is documenting intellectual dishonesty. I emailed CPlatt my Ali page and he didn't respond so at least Cremeeens responded. I guess this is the standard M.O. now-- deny, ignore-- walk away, plead ignorance. Fine. Truth always surfaces anyway, one way or another.

RE: Alcor Contact Form: Muhammad Ali Pitch to Ch. 3 Phx

Friday, March 17, 2017 6:18 PM
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"Rick Potvin"
"Diane Cremeens"
Hi Dianne-- Thank you for responding. My intention was simply to give a heads up to the fact that Ali has a cryonics history and that I hooked Channel 3 up with it. My primary post on the topic has had 500 hits since last year. If msm queries alcor/you on this, at least I was able to issue an advance notice. Hopefully you'll read my blog post and at least have Cryonics Magazine writers deal with the Ali/cryonics history as a matter of simple intellectual honesty in my intended context given the online obvious evidence of the connection-- if not for business, at least of intellectual fun. Thanks again.

Rick Potvin
On Fri, 3/17/17, Diane Cremeens <diane@alcor.org> wrote:

Subject: RE: Alcor Contact Form: Muhammad Ali Pitch to Ch. 3 Phx
To: "'Rick Potvin'" <rick_potvin@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, March 17, 2017, 5:10 PM

Hi Rick,

This is a new one, of course he is not here.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Potvin [mailto:rick_potvin@yahoo.com]

Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 1:44 PM
To: diane@alcor.org
Cc: rick_potvin@yahoo.com
Subject: Alcor Contact Form: Muhammad Ali Pitch to Ch. 3

Thank you for your question or feedback.  Below is a
copy of your message to
us.  We will respond as soon as possible.

From: Rick Potvin <rick_potvin@yahoo.com>


Subject: Muhammad Ali Pitch to Ch. 3 Phx


heads up-- just in case they cover this


Rick says ... on March 17 Fri 8 pm -- I just emailed the org that's organizing the fundraiser... as follows...

I've investigated Ali's interest in cryonics and was a cryonics member for years. I'm the person who discovered that Ted Williams was frozen as a head. My blog post about Ali and cryonics has recieved over 400 hits.

I'd like to invite you and your organization to "at least" look into my proven connection of cryonics with Ali in the hope that we can mainstream cryonics by virtue of Ali's desire for it via Trans Time in California-- as can be proven with records now showing up on Google in the age of the internet- that I've documented on my blog.


Rick Potvin-- an "immortalist" in the tradiation of Gilgamesh and now--- Muhammed Ali!

Celebrity Fight Night

Rick says-- on march 17 Fri 8 pm === between Charles Platt's outreach to me (that he denied-- on Facebook)-- Dianne Cremeens who is public relations at Alcor who said it's news to her that Ali was into cryonics-- and the Ali fundraising org-- and Channel 3 in Phoenix-- I expect a spark to fly somewhere. But since cryonics is so underground for decades... and even more underground today, that spark might not show up. Still, I'll be watching for it. I like the the idea that Ali was into cryonics. I used to watch "wrestling" with my Potvin grandpaw... and developed a taste, as a kid, for one on one guys fighting each other-- for show-- and Ali definitely was a showman. Since I found out that Trans Time showed him around their lab-- like they showed ME around-- back there in the 1980's... and also since Ali has other political and social views that match my own-- I'd like to see him get credit for having taken the LONG SHOT at being preserved for future reanimation like Disney and Ted Williams!

Rick says-- March 17 9:12 Pm MST-- I emailed CPlatt

Re: Was Muhammed Ali frozen like Ted Williams?

Friday, March 17, 2017 11:34 PM
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"Rick Potvin"
"R"Charles Plat"
Charles, tomorrow is the Ali fundraiser for Parkinsons. There is lots of evidence that Ali was into cryonics. Steal my info if you want to and claim it as your own, I don't care. You of all people could make a writier's impact on the cryonics world. After you read my blog post about Ali, you MUST have been impressed. Because I know the silver shirt impressed you too. So let's see an article in Wired about Ali and cryonics by you. Why not?
On Mon, 1/23/17, Rick Potvin <rick_potvin@yahoo.com> wrote:

Subject: Was Muhammed Ali frozen like Ted Williams?
To: "Charles Platt" <plattland@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, January 23, 2017, 10:38 PM

Charles, whenever you find it
convenient, I would be genuinely honored if you would read
my blog post about Ali and let me know what you think.
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What an abolutely crappy website 15 has... 3 is waaaay better with 5 up in the air neither her nor there. Actually 3 wins for contactability. 

muhammad ali phoenix - Google Search

Muhammad Ali Parkinson Center | Barrow


The Muhammad Ali Parkinson Center at Barrow Neurological Institute at Dignity Health St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center in Phoenix, Arizona is a ...

Rick Potvin's Cryonics-for-Connectomes Commentary: MOHAMMED ALI ...


MOHAMMED ALI - I've contacted Phoenix channel 5. June 4 2016 at 6:47 PM, R ( Login recreation) ... At that time, as well, I was unable to drive over to Alcor

HIXON - SHOWING ALL MATCHES :: Census Data Research Online


MOHAMMAD HIXON as of: 03-AUG-2016, MOHAMED HIXON as of: 01-JAN- 2017 ...... HUGO HIXON as of: 06-FEB-2017, HUGH HIXON as of: 06-FEB-2017 ...... ALI HIXON as of: 06-AUG-2016, ALFREDO HIXON as of: 11-SEP-2016.

“ben best” | Search Results | The Institute for Evidence-Based ...


... hold greater importance in my life than Muhammad Ali, the boxing legend, ..... was achieved when I arrived on the scene and Hugh Hixon became involved full  ...

Today, Bob Ettinger, Ray Kurzweil and Ben Best hold greater importance in my life than Muhammad Ali, the boxing legend, Jim Kelly, the Buffalo Bill quarterback who played in four straight Super Bowls, or Bret “Hitman” Hart, the pro wrestler who earned the right to say he’s “the best there is, the best there was, and the b

est there ever will be.”'

What Really Happened to Ted Williams - Sports Illustrated

www.si.com/.../what-really-happened-to-ted-williams-a-year-after-the-jarring -news-that-the-splendid-splinter-was-being-frozen-in-a-cryonics-lab...

Aug 18, 2003 ... Muhammad Ali .... According to Alcor internal documents, e-mails, photographs and tape recordings obtained by SI with the cooperation of the ...

OF COURSE-- SPORT ILLUSTRATED is the reporter to go to! -- Akkk. Why didn't I think of that before? --Rick.

I'm humble. I'm not trying to grandstand. I'm just a little guy trying to get what I see as "the truth" out. I discovered Ted Willians was a head-only case in 2003. I attended the board meetings of Alcor in Scottsdale. I can tell you the mood of the room in addition to what was said to sidestep the fact that Ted was in a Cryostar container. 

NOW.... TOMORROW-- in Phoenix-- we have the Muhammad Ali Celebrity fundraiser. I think ali was frozen secretly. Here's my website. Take  a look. If you think it's malarky, fine. I'm just a salesman and piano teacher who signed up for cryonics years ago in Phoenix-- who is an infomaniac. I noted that SI followed the Ted Williams cryonics story closely--- so how about Ali? Ali has a cryonics history! 

Background information - The art of being cryogenically frozen

Larry King, Simon Cowell, Muhammad Ali,and many other famous people have ... The reason that the cost is that high is that alcor charges $115,000.00 for ...

Rick says... How can anyone connected with cryonics DENY the Ali interest? If they DENY the  Ali interest-- which interest is evident and clearly documented-- then what does that mean? It's a blatant denial and contradiction, at the very least.  Email me at rick_potvin@yahoo.com

X-Message-Number: 643 Subject: CRYONICS - ACS vs. ALCOR ... Avi Ben- Abraham is not just a friend of Muhammad Ali; he is also an ACS officer ( president).
Dec 30, 2012 ... http://gulfnews.com/life-style/health/cryonics-in-search-of-immortality- ...Muhammad Ali, Peter Sellers and Michael Jackson are all believed to ...
Jan 12, 1992 ... Why would Muhammad Ali secretly visit a Berkeley laboratory full of scientists whose ultimate goal is to bring frozen humans back from the 
Dr. Avi Ben- Abraham says that he has met with "very powerful people" concerning cryonics: Michael Jackson, for one; Muhammad Ali, for another. "This is very ...

AZCentral.com - 20 hours ago
Celebrity Fight Night 2017 in Phoenix: Muhammad Ali's legacy ..... That was clear 
Saturday, March 18, at the fundraising gala that Ali was ...
Apr 9, 2016 ... Boxing legend gets standing ovation at fundraiser for Muhammad Ali Parkinson Center at Barrow Neurological Institute.
But cryonics as a part of our culture is here to stay. Actors from Charlton Heston in Planet of the Apes to Harrison Ford as Han Solo in The Empire Strikes Back to ..
Dec 16, 2015 ... Could we freeze Harrison Ford in real life? ... liquid nitrogen is used forcryonics, the process of preserving living organisms at extremely cold ...
Jul 24, 1982 ... CRYONICS is the newsletter of the Institute for Advanced Biological ..... HarrisonFord plays a blade runner, a special cop who pursues and.

RICK ADDS-- I linked CI to this site.

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