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Friday, March 17, 2017
I pitched Ch. 3 Phoenix on covering the possible Ali-cryonics connection.
I failed to copy and post the pitch to Ch. 3 but basically pitched them on my blog here and how there might be a connection. channel 5 phoenix - Google Search
P.A.L.M. Cryonics
I emailed alcor's general contact form-- with a heads up to this link. The next paragraph shows that Alcor is officially pleading ignorance to any connection between Ali and cryonics by issuing a statement that is incomplete and brief. This is complete absurdity. Obviously TransTime has a currently online findable documented history with Ali as I showed 2 posts ago so this makes Alcor useless as a funnel for cryonics information-- as I found out decades ago anyway. Still-- since Ali is in Phoenix and since the Ali fundraiser this weekend is in PHoenix and since Alcor is in Phoenix-- etc... you'd think that an intellectually honest Alcor (obviously an oxymoron) would at least acknowledge the idea that Ali desired cryonics like Disney decades earlier. This cryonics cover-up is stupid in the age of the internet when everything is now available to anyone with a smartphone. I guess all I'm doing here is documenting intellectual dishonesty. I emailed CPlatt my Ali page and he didn't respond so at least Cremeeens responded. I guess this is the standard M.O. now-- deny, ignore-- walk away, plead ignorance. Fine. Truth always surfaces anyway, one way or another.
Friday, March 17, 2017 6:18 PM
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P.A.L.M. Cryonics
I emailed alcor's general contact form-- with a heads up to this link. The next paragraph shows that Alcor is officially pleading ignorance to any connection between Ali and cryonics by issuing a statement that is incomplete and brief. This is complete absurdity. Obviously TransTime has a currently online findable documented history with Ali as I showed 2 posts ago so this makes Alcor useless as a funnel for cryonics information-- as I found out decades ago anyway. Still-- since Ali is in Phoenix and since the Ali fundraiser this weekend is in PHoenix and since Alcor is in Phoenix-- etc... you'd think that an intellectually honest Alcor (obviously an oxymoron) would at least acknowledge the idea that Ali desired cryonics like Disney decades earlier. This cryonics cover-up is stupid in the age of the internet when everything is now available to anyone with a smartphone. I guess all I'm doing here is documenting intellectual dishonesty. I emailed CPlatt my Ali page and he didn't respond so at least Cremeeens responded. I guess this is the standard M.O. now-- deny, ignore-- walk away, plead ignorance. Fine. Truth always surfaces anyway, one way or another.
RE: Alcor Contact Form: Muhammad Ali Pitch to Ch. 3 Phx
- From:
- "Rick Potvin"
- To:
- "Diane Cremeens"
Hi Dianne-- Thank you for responding. My intention was simply to give a heads up to the fact that Ali has a cryonics history and that I hooked Channel 3 up with it. My primary post on the topic has had 500 hits since last year. If msm queries alcor/you on this, at least I was able to issue an advance notice. Hopefully you'll read my blog post and at least have Cryonics Magazine writers deal with the Ali/cryonics history as a matter of simple intellectual honesty in my intended context given the online obvious evidence of the connection-- if not for business, at least of intellectual fun. Thanks again.
Rick Potvin
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On Fri, 3/17/17, Diane Cremeens <diane@alcor.org> wrote:
Subject: RE: Alcor Contact Form: Muhammad Ali Pitch to Ch. 3 Phx
To: "'Rick Potvin'" <rick_potvin@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, March 17, 2017, 5:10 PM
Hi Rick,
This is a new one, of course he is not here.
Diane
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Potvin [mailto:rick_potvin@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 1:44 PM
To: diane@alcor.org
Cc: rick_potvin@yahoo.com
Subject: Alcor Contact Form: Muhammad Ali Pitch to Ch. 3
Phx
Thank you for your question or feedback. Below is a
copy of your message to
us. We will respond as soon as possible.
From: Rick Potvin <rick_potvin@yahoo.com>
Address:
,
Telephone:
(day)
(evening)
Subject: Muhammad Ali Pitch to Ch. 3 Phx
--
heads up-- just in case they cover this
http://rickpotvin-cryonet.blogspot.com/2017/03/i-pitched-ch-3-phoenix-on-cov
ering.html
Rick says ... on March 17 Fri 8 pm -- I just emailed the org that's organizing the fundraiser... as follows...
I've investigated Ali's interest in cryonics and was a cryonics member for years. I'm the person who discovered that Ted Williams was frozen as a head. My blog post about Ali and cryonics has recieved over 400 hits.
http://rickpotvin-cryonet.blogspot.com/2016/06/was-muhammed-ali-frozen-like-ted.html
I'd like to invite you and your organization to "at least" look into my proven connection of cryonics with Ali in the hope that we can mainstream cryonics by virtue of Ali's desire for it via Trans Time in California-- as can be proven with records now showing up on Google in the age of the internet- that I've documented on my blog.
Thanks.
Rick Potvin-- an "immortalist" in the tradiation of Gilgamesh and now--- Muhammed Ali!
Celebrity Fight Night
Rick says-- on march 17 Fri 8 pm === between Charles Platt's outreach to me (that he denied-- on Facebook)-- Dianne Cremeens who is public relations at Alcor who said it's news to her that Ali was into cryonics-- and the Ali fundraising org-- and Channel 3 in Phoenix-- I expect a spark to fly somewhere. But since cryonics is so underground for decades... and even more underground today, that spark might not show up. Still, I'll be watching for it. I like the the idea that Ali was into cryonics. I used to watch "wrestling" with my Potvin grandpaw... and developed a taste, as a kid, for one on one guys fighting each other-- for show-- and Ali definitely was a showman. Since I found out that Trans Time showed him around their lab-- like they showed ME around-- back there in the 1980's... and also since Ali has other political and social views that match my own-- I'd like to see him get credit for having taken the LONG SHOT at being preserved for future reanimation like Disney and Ted Williams!
Rick says-- March 17 9:12 Pm MST-- I emailed CPlatt
Rick Potvin
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On Fri, 3/17/17, Diane Cremeens <diane@alcor.org> wrote:
Subject: RE: Alcor Contact Form: Muhammad Ali Pitch to Ch. 3 Phx
To: "'Rick Potvin'" <rick_potvin@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, March 17, 2017, 5:10 PM
Hi Rick,
This is a new one, of course he is not here.
Diane
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Potvin [mailto:rick_potvin@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 1:44 PM
To: diane@alcor.org
Cc: rick_potvin@yahoo.com
Subject: Alcor Contact Form: Muhammad Ali Pitch to Ch. 3
Phx
Thank you for your question or feedback. Below is a
copy of your message to
us. We will respond as soon as possible.
From: Rick Potvin <rick_potvin@yahoo.com>
Address:
,
Telephone:
(day)
(evening)
Subject: Muhammad Ali Pitch to Ch. 3 Phx
--
heads up-- just in case they cover this
http://rickpotvin-cryonet.blogspot.com/2017/03/i-pitched-ch-3-phoenix-on-cov
ering.html
Rick says ... on March 17 Fri 8 pm -- I just emailed the org that's organizing the fundraiser... as follows...
I've investigated Ali's interest in cryonics and was a cryonics member for years. I'm the person who discovered that Ted Williams was frozen as a head. My blog post about Ali and cryonics has recieved over 400 hits.
http://rickpotvin-cryonet.blogspot.com/2016/06/was-muhammed-ali-frozen-like-ted.html
I'd like to invite you and your organization to "at least" look into my proven connection of cryonics with Ali in the hope that we can mainstream cryonics by virtue of Ali's desire for it via Trans Time in California-- as can be proven with records now showing up on Google in the age of the internet- that I've documented on my blog.
Thanks.
Rick Potvin-- an "immortalist" in the tradiation of Gilgamesh and now--- Muhammed Ali!
Celebrity Fight Night
Rick says-- on march 17 Fri 8 pm === between Charles Platt's outreach to me (that he denied-- on Facebook)-- Dianne Cremeens who is public relations at Alcor who said it's news to her that Ali was into cryonics-- and the Ali fundraising org-- and Channel 3 in Phoenix-- I expect a spark to fly somewhere. But since cryonics is so underground for decades... and even more underground today, that spark might not show up. Still, I'll be watching for it. I like the the idea that Ali was into cryonics. I used to watch "wrestling" with my Potvin grandpaw... and developed a taste, as a kid, for one on one guys fighting each other-- for show-- and Ali definitely was a showman. Since I found out that Trans Time showed him around their lab-- like they showed ME around-- back there in the 1980's... and also since Ali has other political and social views that match my own-- I'd like to see him get credit for having taken the LONG SHOT at being preserved for future reanimation like Disney and Ted Williams!
Rick says-- March 17 9:12 Pm MST-- I emailed CPlatt
Charles, tomorrow is the Ali fundraiser for Parkinsons. There is lots of evidence that Ali was into cryonics. Steal my info if you want to and claim it as your own, I don't care. You of all people could make a writier's impact on the cryonics world. After you read my blog post about Ali, you MUST have been impressed. Because I know the silver shirt impressed you too. So let's see an article in Wired about Ali and cryonics by you. Why not?
-------------------------------------------- On Mon, 1/23/17, Rick Potvin <rick_potvin@yahoo.com> wrote: Subject: Was Muhammed Ali frozen like Ted Williams? To: "Charles Platt" <plattland@gmail.com> Date: Monday, January 23, 2017, 10:38 PM Charles, whenever you find it convenient, I would be genuinely honored if you would read my blog post about Ali and let me know what you think. http://rickpotvin-cryonet.blogspot.com/2016/06/was-muhammed-ali-frozen-like-ted.html | |
Alphabetical Sentence Index
- 000 Alcor program. (1)
- 9/11 in Phoenix on 12/25/12 (1)
- Ali - frozen (1)
- Ali - frozen 2 (1)
- Ali - frozen 3 (1)
- Attendance - number of hits on PALM cryonics forum. (1)
- Billion dollar foundation - how? (1)
- Blogsearch on cryonics (1)
- Board - no emails on Alcor site (1)
- Bryan H. - taking it with you (1)
- Charles Platt - funding minimums articles (1)
- Charles Platt's articles - rejected by Alcor editors... why? (1)
- Cher (1)
- Churning - method to fund wealthy cryos by less wealthy cryos (1)
- CI + SA Fee - no accounting for inflation and higher tech (1)
- CI in AZ - a new paradigm? (1)
- Cold Filter Forum - avoidance of new #1 issue of funding (1)
- Covid frozen vaccine (1)
- Dave Pizer sees Alcor problem. (1)
- Don Laughlin - estate 1 (1)
- down payment - life insurance as.... on cryopreservation (1)
- Econometric model of Alcor finance (1)
- Endowment Dec. 2010 - locks up millions from bequest with 2% payout (1)
- Eric Klein - drew attention to funding gap in early 1990s (1)
- Ettinger - out of the loop? (1)
- Facts of Life - Dick Jones' estate and other estates bequested to Alcor (1)
- Financial and economic world collapse - effect on cryonics (1)
- Freitas' econometric model of Alcor finanance (1)
- FUNDING - double funding every 20 years (1)
- Funding Gap - ...the primary issue now over and above technology (1)
- Futures contracts - in cryonics analagous to pork belly futures contracts. (1)
- Grandfathered local members - status (2)
- Hugh Hefner (1)
- Inflation / higher cost high tech vs. economies of scale (1)
- Intermediate Temperature Storage - available to select few (1)
- Introduction (1)
- ITS - 3 x more costly (1)
- Jennifer's original Alcor blogpost renegging grandfathering (1)
- last minute cases - as a model for PALM (1)
- Later years - not the same as earlier years (1)
- Matt Sullivan - funding plans and ideas. (1)
- Max More - business consultant genius brought in to solve Alcor funding gap? (1)
- Max More - quit (1)
- Membership - not necessary (1)
- Membership cancellation notice - modified (1)
- Membership cancellations considered. (1)
- Membership Director Cremeens - emails to... (1)
- Membership dues - going up and up and up (1)
- Mike Darwin - 3 part history (1)
- Mind is already immortal via quantum deep reality. (1)
- Minimums - funding... (1)
- Muhammed Ali (1)
- New $50 (1)
- Optimize - cryonics arrangements (1)
- P.A.L.M. Cryonics - unilateral back up plan (1)
- P.A.L.M. Cryonics - Pre Arranged Last Minute cryonics arrangements (1)
- PALM Cryonics Trust - a new cryonics finance model. (1)
- Perpetual trusts - killing cryonics by starving Alcor now in favor of individual speculative reanimation? (1)
- Pool funded equitable cryoncis - through a cryonics church (1)
- PRE ARRANGED LAST MINUTE CRYONICS - ...is now my first choice. (1)
- Quantum reality - mind is already immortal (1)
- questions - invited (1)
- Reincarnation (1)
- Religion - cryonics as... (1)
- Rick Potvin (3)
- Rick's Situation - a sad tale of insurance folly (1)
- Rudi Hoffman - alternative plans (1)
- Sequence reader. (1)
- Silver - funding my preservation with silver 100 oz bars. (1)
- Standby fee $10/mo and Chapman's blogpost (1)
- status report - my membership status (1)
- Steve Vachani - underinsured at age 22 (1)
- Storage containers - Maxim's view (1)
- Suicide for cryonics (1)
- Suspended Animation Inc - May 20 2011 conference will pitch to Alcor members to convert (1)
- Transferrability - of PALM cryonics plan across orgs (1)
- Unperson's situation (1)
- Updates in diary format. (1)
- vaccines - covid minus 90 (1)
- will or trust - name Alcor as beneficiary for pre-arranged last minute non member cryonics (1)